Podcast #31- UFOs, UAPs & ET Contact: MUFON Idaho Director Amy Bond Tells Her Story

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  • Host By: Doug Dvorak
  • Guest: Amy Bond
  • Published On: July 17, 2026
  • Duration: 01:05:35
Transcript

Doug Dvorak (00:01.144)
Good day, Mission Possible Podcast community. I’m your host, Doug Dvorak, and welcome to another issue of Mission Possible, where we interview incredible guests who are making a difference in some aspect of life, business, or exploring possibilities. Today’s guest is Amy Bond, State Director of

MUFON, which is the mutual UFO network in Idaho. She also is an ET contact experiencer. So welcome to the Mission Possible podcast, Amy. I’m so excited to have you. You know, UFOs are top of mind, but tell us a little bit about yourself and Mufon as the state director and a former chief investigator for Mufon.

Amy Bond (00:53.615)
Absolutely. Well, first I want to say thank you for this opportunity. The time has come to get this kind of information out and help it to be more normal conversation at the dinner table and not something that’s shamed. I am now the state director of the MOOC on Idaho, but before that, I had a pretty normal Generation X kind of life. You know, I

I grew up in a very small Oregon community that was a lot of ranching, a lot of ag and very s just very small. Eastern Oregon, as you can imagine, is No, it was in Le Grande.

Doug Dvorak (01:30.206)
Was that in the Steens?

Doug Dvorak (01:34.518)
I know Legrand. I went to the Steens and did some hiking. That is off the grid. But it’s beautiful country. So you’re from Le Grand?

Amy Bond (01:39.915)
It is. It’s cool. it’s cool. Yeah, I well I grew up in Legrand and I also grew up in a really isolated mountain in Le Grand. So

It was a half a mile to get to my bus stop. So my brother and I would ski to the bus stop because you couldn’t get a car in and out from our from the main road. I mean, so it it was really something. You know, I tell people that story, people don’t believe it, but it’s absolutely true. we had cross country skis so we could glide down but then skewed up, right? At the end of the day, we just stick in the ditch, get on the school bus. It was a whole thing.

Doug Dvorak (02:17.655)
So you’re you’re not gonna tell me I had to walk a half mile in the snow. I’ve interviewed a lot of guests that lived off grid and had to walk in the snow, but you you you literally skied.

Amy Bond (02:26.668)
We did. Well, we skied most of the time, but if if it skied while you were at school, you had to walk. So because you know, whatever. But so I married my high school sweetheart. We raised two boys. I went to dental hygiene school, was a dental hygienist for almost 30 years, really close to 30 years. No

Doug Dvorak (02:47.213)
But you’re not just a dental hygienist because you are a dental hygienist who could also do fillings and I’ve never heard about that. What what is that?

Amy Bond (02:55.082)
That’s that isn’t that’s not in every state. That’s in Washington, I think California, some other states. It’s not in Idaho. So I had to get a four year degree and then go through specific training to do that. They’re were called expanded functions. Hygienus and yes we did

Doug Dvorak (03:15.607)
So you ha you you have roots in the material science and traditional thinking upbringing, and then you’re gonna share a little bit in a moment how that was really changed when you had some some experiences with E.T. But you were going down the path a a very, very tradit well, traditional upbringing, but being raised on a ranch in just pristine beauty, not a lot of outside.

influences other than your family, your friends, your high school, your church and you’re going down this lane and then, you know, what happened? ‘Cause we’ve talked, but I want you to exp e explain that first encounter and how it just

Amy Bond (03:43.224)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right.

Doug Dvorak (04:01.079)
Blew up your world.

Amy Bond (04:02.594)
Right, it did. Well, the first encounter didn’t. but I think I should add real quick that being isolated out there, we didn’t have TV because you couldn’t get TV in the seventies out there. So I spent a ton of time just playing alone out in the forest all hours and hours and hours. I was always out there, big make believe kind of thing. So

I I had a great imagination and whatnot. And I was I had a ton of art supplies and so I was doing art constantly. So I mean, that maybe is not normal. Like there were lots of kids that lived in town and had neighborhoods and played basketball with each other. I didn’t experience that at all. I was alone a lot. But anyway,

Doug Dvorak (04:51.189)
You know, I I grew up as an only child in the Chicago suburbs, plenty of farmland in the seventies. We’re both about the the the same age. but I remember at night looking up at the sky and it was it was beautiful, but there was light p light pollution. I could imagine in Le Grand and when I moved from Chicago to McCall, Idaho with no light pollution, it it blew me away on a clear night.

Amy Bond (05:04.696)
Yes.

Amy Bond (05:15.565)
Right.

Doug Dvorak (05:18.005)
what I could see. When when you were growing up, were you the kid who stared at the night sky and asked, What’s out there? Or did this world how did you find that unexpected

Amy Bond (05:26.669)
Yes.

My imagination was so rich. And I have to say, I was that kid. I was fascinated with sci-fi. Living out where I lived. We slept outside most nights of the summer. We had a trampoline and we’d sleep on the trampoline. I could see the whole Milky Way, all of its colors, all of its fuzziness or whatever. And I remember one night asking my dad, What is that? And he’s like, Well, that’s the Milky Way, and that’s all these different stars. And that’s when I was like fascinated. Like, if a star is a sun.

If the sun is a star, does that mean every single one of those have planets around it? And that was not something people even talked about until probably maybe in the last 10 years or whatever. But I mean, every single star you see has planets. Every single one of those stars have planets in a Goldilocks zone. So that’s that’s pretty interesting. So yes, I absolutely was that kid. and

I was already having experiences at that time. So it was very normal for me to go, all right, all right. So, you know, I was

Doug Dvorak (06:30.999)
Yeah, you know, I I I remember when I was and I had a a a UAP UFO experience at about eleven where it was a summer evening and in the sky this big orb with fire behind it. It was nothing else. And I reached out to someone or somehow I i there was no internet back then and it they sent me a packet of information, I filled it out, but it really

It was more interesting and fascinating. I wasn’t scared. I didn’t know what it was. But you know, I think I w wanna get right into the the the the the heart of this conversation. Right now, UFOs, UAPs are top of mind. They’re all in the media, very credible media sources. David Grush, a former US intelligence officer, Tennessee congressman, Tim Burchett, and a host of other prominent

thought leaders, scientists and institutions are talking about UFOs, E. T. encountered experiences and UAPs. Then you add to that Bob Lazar’s experience and Skinwalker Ranch. Why why now? Instead of just a blurb of of of a gray, as you refer to them or the community refers to them, the Grays, you know, not in in in

a wacky social media or or the inquirer. I mean, these are credible people, educated like yourself, rooted in good values, critical thinking, and they have these wild experiences. They do not strike me as a few fry short of a happy meal or out there. These are very together honest, law abiding, taxpaying citizens that are holding a job and then the experience so the question is, why now with all this in the media?

Amy Bond (08:10.936)
Yes.

Amy Bond (08:27.032)
I don’t think it can be suppressed anymore. I think humanity is ready. We’ve reached a point in our technology where we even on e even on the internet we don’t it’s really hard to discern sometimes AI from what is real. So we’ve kind of reached this point in technology and I think the ETs are actually like, Okay, they’re ready, they’re ready. And it they’re they’re making it more visual. More and more people are are we have had

In Moufon, Idaho, we have had in just this year, these last six months, more cases than we had in the previous year, and then in the previous year, like it’s just been exponentially growing. And in those cases, we’ve had what’s called ERT experiencer, where we have to bring on a resource team of people to help with counseling because it’s such a shattering of their like, wow, you know, everything I thought was real is now shattered. So w we are ready as

As a collective people to accept this new reality. And I think most of us don’t like what’s happening in our interactions with other countries, other countries warring. there’s so much hunger, there’s so much pollution, there’s so many things happening. People want this to change, and so our collective.

our collective consciousness about it, but our our collective unity in it is like, I want this to be different and the E. T.s like, Okay, they’re ready, but we’re we’re coming in, we’re coming in and we’re making it so they can’t hide this anymore.

Doug Dvorak (09:58.99)
So you said a two X, three X increase this year in in in sightings, experiences, alone. How many of those individuals were rocked and and transferred in a positive non comatose you know, just it it rocked them so much they had to go see a therapist or some of your your team?

Amy Bond (10:06.668)
Yes.

Amy Bond (10:15.746)
All of them.

Doug Dvorak (10:28.781)
but how many looked at it as, wow, it’s like that near death experience, seeing the white light. I’m not afraid of death anymore. What was what is the overarching theme? Is it fear and loathing, leave me alone or wow, it was peaceful, give me more?

Amy Bond (10:43.906)
the very first thing people say it’s almost like when you go through a a a grief sequence, right? shock. Absolute shock. My world has cr been crumbled around me. And then the denial and then no, that couldn’t have been. That had to have been a dream. And then I don’t know what the other s ones are, but there’s some anger. There’s anger.

Doug Dvorak (11:01.943)
Bargaining, bargaining and the and then acceptance.

Amy Bond (11:04.894)
Yeah, even the anger. It’s all there. It all happens. And whole and li what’s cool about this is it happens pretty fast. It isn’t like when you lose someone you really love and sometimes you’re in that anger phase for years. I experienced that with my losing my daddy, but no, this goes and they start seeking I need somebody to talk to. I have to put some reality back into this experience that has shattered everything I’ve ever thought was real.

Doug Dvorak (11:33.303)
So tell us about the MUFON the UFO network, the mutual UFO network and and what is the charter, what do they do and and unpack that for us, would you please?

Amy Bond (11:39.04)
Okay. Absolutely.

Amy Bond (11:47.287)
Sure. Well MUFON Idaho grew out of this real need in the state of Idaho for some leadership in this category because even though it w wouldn’t seem this way, but we’re in the top five of all the states, right? Per capita.

Doug Dvorak (12:03.221)
All fifty states are just forty eight contiguous.

Amy Bond (12:06.82)
of all fifty states. We Yeah, of all fifty Alaska has quite a few things going on. Every state that’s right along the water, around the ocean, so we’ve got your your California, your Texas, and then in the Gulf and then over there on

Doug Dvorak (12:08.191)
All fifty, okay.

Amy Bond (12:22.93)
Florida and whatnot. They have tons and tons of reports every month, but they have way more people, right? Here in Idaho we have much fewer people and big open spaces that and people love to be outdoors in Idaho. We love to be camping and we have big open spaces with no air traffic going. We have big places where there’s nobody. Nobody and no light pollution either. So when people see things

Doug Dvorak (12:29.783)
Mm-hmm.

Doug Dvorak (12:42.252)
Right.

Amy Bond (12:52.396)
They’re pretty much got it figured out. They’re just like, okay, that is absolutely not a plane. Or or whatever. But I mean there are some really cool meteorologic things that it can be too, which which which blew my mind when I learned about too. But really, okay, so but MUFON in and of itself, it’s the largest long standing global organization that’s put together by citizens training other citizens to be

good investigators and to follow evidence, not follow emotion, but follow the nuts and bolts of the evidence. And it’s been around since the 60s. And every state at this point has their own smaller group that helps to support the people in that state that have these experiences.

Doug Dvorak (13:39.778)
But there seems to be a a concentration in the West, you know, Nevada, Utah, to your point, where there’s not a lot of people. Why the the the higher concentration in the areas you’ve talked about because of, you know, less light pollution perhaps less less people, but you know, th the the Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, that’s really, you know, Skinwalker Ranch around the greater

Amy Bond (14:08.118)
Mm-hmm.

Doug Dvorak (14:09.525)
Las Vegas area, why that area?

Amy Bond (14:12.536)
You know, I don’t have a real smart answer for that exactly. I just don’t know why that it would be in Skinwalker Ranch. I don’t think they know why yet either, but it has something to do with energy. Something to do with the natural energy in the earth. Maybe creating places that they can come in and out more frequently.

Doug Dvorak (14:28.983)
So

Doug Dvorak (14:32.535)
So I have an experience with a UFO, a UAP, and I’m rocked and I call MUFON, Idaho. What happens then? There’s an investigator, w w unpack what that investigation looks like. And the process and from first report to final conclusion.

Amy Bond (14:41.539)
Yes.

Amy Bond (14:46.867)
of course. Of course. So

Amy Bond (14:52.096)
Absolutely. So, someone has an experience and they make a report and the report comes to me and then either I follow the w with that process of

The investigation or I assign it to either the chief investigator or to a field investigator who lives in that area perhaps or that we’re trying to train and and train up and in that case we’re we’re with that person through the whole thing. So I just start to collect the the evidence, the real basic stuff, like what was the exact time? What was the what is your exact latitude and longitude in the spot? Are you facing north? Are you facing whatever? And then I grab all that. Did they have data? Did they get a picture of it?

Or a video, and and we’re so good at that now. We all have our phones with us all the time. So there usually is a video. And then I go to the analysis phase, I put their their video or their picture through a metadata extractor where it’s funny how how humans are we’re really bad at what the exact time is. We’re really bad about that. So I can extract the exact time that photo was shot, the exact latitude and longitude, the angle, how high it is up in the sky, sometimes will show me that.

And if it had if it’s had any kind of manipulation, like did they edit this picture at all? And if I can, and and I haven’t found one yet that’s been edited, people have been super genuine. So they’re like, no, this is what I’ve exactly what I saw or whatever. And so then I could say, okay, so I can I can say that this person is not trying to hoax me, and this is a piece of evidence that I can use. And then I take that date data and I go through flight records.

I can go back as far as five years in flight records. meteorologic data, satellite data. I mean, you name it, I e we exhaust it. We just we try to rule out every single thing it could possibly be using the scientific method.

Doug Dvorak (16:48.609)
So what so you you follow a a scientific method, a systems process data, timestamp, but what percentage of the cases that you investigate turn out to have a conventional explanation and what do the rest look like?

Amy Bond (16:54.677)
Mm, mm-hmm.

Amy Bond (17:01.346)
But yeah. About eighty to eighty five percent we can figure it out. And then but that leaves fifteen to twenty percent.

Doug Dvorak (17:06.721)
Okay.

But what are so what are so give me some examples of the eighty, eighty five percent that have a conventional definition?

Amy Bond (17:13.932)
Okay. my gosh, Starlink is a big contender because Starlinks that were launched back in twenty twenty two, they still fly over Idaho.

Doug Dvorak (17:17.963)
Really?

Amy Bond (17:22.95)
And I had one just recently where the person goes, it was flying in an arc right at the panhandle of the of the little dipper, or of the big dipper. I was able to go into one called Stellarium.web or dash web and it’s really hard to see because they’re teeny dots of light, but I found one at the exact time. And so then I was like, it was this number Starlink, number three, five, five, whatever it is.

Whatever. And so starlinks and the satellites are a big deal. And if you went on to something called heavens above, which is something else that I use, and say, Show me all the Starlings going over the earth right now, it looks like a mass of bugs around the earth. It is so thick, so many. So I’ve found Starlink quite often and it but another one are the toroidal meteor showers. They could look green and look like a tube. They are so crazy looking.

Doug Dvorak (18:02.07)
Really?

Amy Bond (18:17.514)
So there’s that one too.

Doug Dvorak (18:19.191)
So satellites, Starlink, Meteor, there’s there’s websites that you what was the first one? Heavens.

Amy Bond (18:26.854)
above. It’s really hard to navigate. It’s kind of a poop. What’s that? It it is kind of wonky. It it’s hard to navigate, but we can train you to navigate it if you want to be an investigator. But

Doug Dvorak (18:27.649)
Heavens above and then kinda wonky wonky website. That’s okay.

Doug Dvorak (18:42.955)
And then what about the the fifteen percent that are confirmed? What what do those look like? Unpack that for us.

Amy Bond (18:48.278)
Okay, okay, so I love the ones where the object is not anything that we can just like that we have on Earth. Like say it drops in out of nowhere, just p it’s there, it tumbles, it moves, has multicolors, and then it goes and just gone within seconds.

We don’t have we have no way that we’re making something like that right now, at least nothing that anybody’s talking about. Or it it just it it drops and hovers for hours in one spot. there’s ones that do like that. It tumbles, it tumbles, blinks in, blinks out, blinks in, blinks out, out of nowhere. And we can’t paralyze and we can’t parallel that with maybe an aircraft that’s transponding.

Doug Dvorak (19:29.591)
So s I’m sorry, go ahead.

Doug Dvorak (19:36.991)
So of those fifteen percent that you identify as credible, real, are those just sightings or how much of those fifteen percent confirmed are interactions with grays or ETs?

Amy Bond (19:51.599)
Right. The majority of the ones that people see in the sky, they have no memory of it being an interaction. So we call those, those are like the Jacques Valet classification of the classifications. Three, two, one. Those are we follow the Jacques Valet classifications of close encounters of the first kind, second, third, fourth.

Doug Dvorak (20:20.161)
And what are those? Unpack those for our listeners.

Amy Bond (20:21.601)
Right, okay, let’s do it. So the first kind is a flyby. A flyby. No interaction with the person. their dogs don’t freak out or anything. They just saw something that was just didn’t fit. So the second kind is it came and it landed and it created some kind of mark on the ground, or the dogs were reacting or the dogs were cowering, you know, or

Everything in their house glitched for a moment and reset itself. Type three is the person actually has their eyes on another living thing. Through a window, it drops, it lands, they got out and they’re looking at them.

Most of the time, okay, I better get through this first, and then I’ll tell you what most of the time is. and then the class of four is when you have an actual interaction where you’ve been touched by them, they’ve moved you, you’ve had an actual abduction experience. And then there’s the type five, which is people that are intentionally trying to draw them into themselves. And that’s kind of a new thing. That’s called CE5. We do have a CE5 group in Idaho, but it’s not connected to MUFON.

So we stick with the one, two, three, four. And what typically happens if somebody’s going to have an interaction, an abduction, it’s usually from them sleeping. Usually. But there have been ones where people say, it followed my car, I had this feeling I needed to pull over, and then five hours are missing of their life and they find themselves back in their car and five hours have gone by and they have no memory of it. That’s happened as well.

actually pretty close to Caldwell. That was a really neat one. That was amazing because there was more than one person in the car and and they can all verify about it.

Doug Dvorak (22:07.053)
Mm.

Doug Dvorak (22:15.607)
Well, we’ve talked and you’ve done a great job of of of sort of framing the macro, why it’s in the media, why more experts are coming out, ’cause humanity, the collective, is ready for it, what MUFON does, what is a a part of the investigation, close encounters of one through the fifth kind. But I really found it fascinating when we were talking prior to our our our

podcast, your personal ET contact experiences. Let’s talk about the personal side and and what I’d ask of you is when you get to I th I respect you you said the grays and there’s a couple of d I’d love for you to bring in those pieces of artwork which I saw because you’re a a very nice person, but you’re also a a very competent and and and

Amy Bond (22:52.121)
Okay.

Amy Bond (23:04.942)
Sure.

Amy Bond (23:11.436)
Thank you.

Doug Dvorak (23:13.099)
artist as I see in the background, but you said, hey Doug, wait, I want to show you what I actually saw. And that was interesting. And my my my limit, I’m certainly no way as deep and knowledgeable and credible as as you are, if at all, relative to ET ex contact experiences, UFOs, UAPs. But the common thread in your pictures, what I’ve saw is the little grays, it’s consistent.

Amy Bond (23:20.281)
Yeah.

Amy Bond (23:41.475)
Yeah, it is.

Doug Dvorak (23:42.773)
It’s not like it’s the common thread. So take us to that first experience and then just build upon it and and and walk us through it.

Amy Bond (23:49.071)
Okay.

Amy Bond (23:53.463)
All right. My very first experience was when I was eight years old. And I woke up and I f discovered that I was rising up out of my bed. I went through my ceiling, went through the attic. I was awake. Went through the roof of my house. And it was it should have been cold outside. I was wearing a flannel nighty.

And there was no snow, so I’m thinking it’s late spring to my memory. But I found myself outside. This is in Le Grand, Oregon. So everywhere I’ve lived, they find me wherever I am. It it does not matter. You cannot hide from these if if they want to interact with you. So I I’m up above my

Doug Dvorak (24:21.067)
And this is in Le Grand, Oregon. Okay.

Amy Bond (24:33.479)
I’m in a full night sky, and to my eight-year-old brain, I was like, this rocks. I can fly. I had no fear. I had absolutely no fear. I was simply in love with the fact that I could fly. And I’m like, I’m gonna I’m gonna go see for some friends. And then black, velvety black.

comes around me and then the very next memory I have is I’m coming back through the ceiling, through the attic, tink, tink, tink, and I am back in my bed and the sun is hitting my face. So that was both physical, that was both non physical, and that was probably telepathic, but I don’t have a memory of talking to them at that time. My memories of talking to them were much, much later in life. So I that happens at eight

Doug Dvorak (25:24.909)
So this happens at eight. You you had this flying experience, you’re going th up through the the roof into the sky. and what did you feel like after that? Were you d confused? Did you think it was a dream? What was what was your feeling?

Amy Bond (25:34.265)
Yeah.

Amy Bond (25:43.765)
I was happy. I was happy. I I felt special. I felt like

I’ve got something that I need to I’m I’m part of something bigger. But you know, my life kind of continued. I had to go to school and I didn’t have to ski that day, but I but I did have to go get on the bus and there was I mean my life of all the conditioning of my life just kind of put me back into this and I probably kind of forgot about it, except for telling my I did, I did. The thing is that’s the problem. 1979, all the way through the rest of it. Every experience that I had I shared

Doug Dvorak (26:12.993)
Did you share it with anybody? Did you s

Amy Bond (26:23.131)
shared with other people and the response was horrible. They didn’t well they didn’t believe me. She’s she’s weird. She’s she’s weird and then you know people at church wanted to cast out the demons and put their hands on me. I went to church and actually asked for prayer and I was treated after that with quite a bit of separation and I felt really weird.

Doug Dvorak (26:27.947)
Like what? She’s crazy, she was stoned, she was ho whatever. I’m not suggesting you

Amy Bond (26:52.663)
I felt weird. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I’m afraid so. I I think in those years being raised in an evangelical kind of theology, what was good about that was that things that we can’t see absolutely exist.

Doug Dvorak (26:54.637)
So they thought you were possessed and visited by Satan, perhaps.

Amy Bond (27:13.237)
And so I was fully on board with things we can’t see can absolutely exist. So when poltergeisty experiences what happened to me, which is kind of the way I framed it all the way from age eight, all the way up until I was much older, until I could actually see what I was dealing with visually, then I was either I’m dealing with a demon or I’m dealing with something angelic and and and whatnot. So I was framing it in that way. So when I was dealing with what I thought were demons.

I would be very, very strict about, you know, in the name of Jesus I cast you out and whatnot. But later when I realized maybe it was NHI all along, I was I’m so sorry, non human intelligence.

Doug Dvorak (27:50.263)
What’s that what’s N A H I?

Amy Bond (27:54.979)
That’s a buzzword that’s used in this community and now in the in the government and one s whatever. But maybe it was them all along, but I’m not gonna say that it wasn’t demons. I’m not gonna say that sometimes it wasn’t angels. I mean, why can’t it be all of it? I mean right.

Doug Dvorak (28:10.359)
So you’re you’re eight years old, this experience happens in in approximately nineteen seventy nine in the Grand Oregon. Then what’s the next piece of of your E T contact experience?

Amy Bond (28:20.513)
Well, I think I want to skip because there were so many paranormal ones that seemed like ghosts that I think may have not been ghosts now, but who knows. so I wanna skip until I’m a little bit older. And I have this I wrote down the date. So I’m I’m in my forties by now. I’m in my fifties, August thirteenth, twenty twenty three.

Doug Dvorak (28:34.144)
About what age?

Doug Dvorak (28:45.271)
So that’s the the most recent, most impactful and and you had other experiences, but this one was was much more expansive.

Amy Bond (28:50.327)
It’s the B

Amy Bond (28:54.553)
Do you you know what? I think that maybe we should pick just one because what I have here are like four where it’s all the same beings.

Doug Dvorak (29:03.814)
you you talk however about whatever you want.

Amy Bond (29:08.909)
Okay. Sorry. Can we go back? This just went over my candle and caught on fire. So but it’s good. All right. So tell me

Doug Dvorak (29:10.573)
Sure.

no. Okay, three, two, one. So your first encounter was when you were eight in nineteen seventy nine in Le Grand, Oregon. Then you had a number of other experiences or contacts. But take us to one or two of the most recent, most impactful, and if you have any of your artwork, if you could show that to our listeners, ’cause it’s really, really beautiful and and I think it it helps to expand upon the story.

Amy Bond (29:29.443)
Yes.

Okay.

Amy Bond (29:43.023)
Absolutely. So I’m dreaming and I’m in a big sky of stars and I don’t I have no awareness of my body but I know that

I exist, but I exist with everything and I have no worries. I am just very happy. And then I began to notice that all around me light begins to filter in and it’s prisms. It’s like broken glass with light shining through it in multiple colors.

Doug Dvorak (30:13.055)
Where are you at when this happens? In in Boise? No, no. you’re sleeping in Idaho. Okay. So you’re sleeping and then this occurs. Sorry.

Amy Bond (30:15.767)
Just an outer space. I’m sleeping. I’m sleeping.

In Idaho. Yep. No worries. Yeah, so and the date for this is November twenty first, twenty twenty-three. So I’m I’m asleep and

the this dark sky all around me all of a sudden becomes like it’s a a a dome of prismatic light. It’s like and you know what I mean by prism, like like the Pink Floyd album with the light and then it’s spectrals like that? Okay, so it’s like prisms breaking into prisms, breaking into prisms, breaking into prisms. And I’m like, wow, this is extraordinary. This is beautiful. And I become kind of aware that I’m in a lucid dream.

I know that I’m dreaming. I know that you know lucid dreams are different than dream dreams. You you know that you’re dreaming. I’m like, this is phenomenal. And I start becoming more aware that I have hands and I have a body. So I’m moving backwards through the light, and then it’s it becomes very clear that I am face to face with a being that looks like this.

Doug Dvorak (31:34.093)
Wow. I do. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Amy Bond (31:34.509)
The prismatic light. See the prisms in its eyes are sparkling. So I felt at the time I was super tiny and I was coming out of its right eye, coming out, but I think I was just becoming aware of my body again. I’d gone from having no body at all to becoming human again. And as the more human I got, the more I was backing away from this person, the more I was already beginning to forget.

I was feeling I was becoming more into my body. And I was like, I don’t wanna forget. I don’t wanna forget. And I was reaching out like, I don’t want to forget this. Let help me remember it. And I woke up in my bed like I had been underwater. Like

Like I just had I needed air and I was like, my gosh, you know, I checked the time. I start to write it, I I s by this time I’ve got a pad of paper by my bed. So I start to write it down and it took me a long time to be able to make that drawing because I couldn’t paint it. I had to go find certain paper that would do that reflection. But

From what I’ve heard from other experiencers, people that have called into MUFON and they want to talk about their experience, they talk about being in a room that’s prismatic light. And they talk about how when they need to be put under control, this being that has eyes like human eyes, but they’re they look like a gray otherwise, except for they’re taller and they have like a they have a pupil and an iris, and they come right up to their face and they just grab a hold of your consciousness so that you can stay under control and they can control.

how much you see. They can

Doug Dvorak (33:15.149)
Alright, let me ask you a question. So you’ve had normal dreams, whatever normal dreams are, that are not E.T. experiences. So based on a normal dream versus the E.T. your personal E.T. contact experiences, what’s the difference? And some of the stories of people that have been interacted with with you know E.T. ets or grays, they have

Amy Bond (33:21.361)
yeah.

Doug Dvorak (33:44.198)
physically been taken to a room, a space, a ship. Some have been probed. You’ve actually had some experiences like that. But my I guess my question is normal dream versus this experience. is the ET go ahead.

Amy Bond (33:45.305)
Mm-hmm.

Amy Bond (34:02.903)
Every every dream I have never had a normal dream that involved them. Every single interaction that I’ve had with them may have seemed like it was starting as a dream, but it did not end as a dream. It ended with something physical or

That that one ended with me sitting up in my bed, but I knew that that was not a dream. I was somewhere else. And it may have not been my whole body, it may have just been my my consciousness of my mind. There is a difference. People have both of these experiences. But that one that one was the very first time.

that I was that close. I was that close. And I there was no telepathic communication between me and that being in that dream except for me just like, don’t let me forget this. Because I’d known I had been with them multiple times and I was only getting little shots of it, little memories, broken fragments of it. So I was able to remember a lot of that. So do you see how I’m saying there is a difference? there’s the there’s the full-on dream where you know you’re you’re riding a unicorn or whatever.

those are dreams and you wake up thinking that’s pretty funny. There’s the ones that leave you they and they will not leave you alone. And then there’s the ones where you’re in a dream and you know you’re in a dream and you can manipulate the dream. That’s lucid dreaming.

Doug Dvorak (35:26.007)
So when you say contact, you’ve expressed a number of different feelings, experiences, but what does that actually mean in your experience? Is it physical, telepathic, visual, or something beyond our vocabulary?

Amy Bond (35:40.717)
I’m gonna say right now that the ET beings, they’re not gonna show up to you in a way that you can’t absorb. So if you can only absorb them, seeing them in a dream kind of sp where you are not, where you have no memory of being touched, that’s all they’re gonna do with you. Because it’s not worth it to them to give us fear-based memories. Although some people do are afraid because they’re just people that are afraid of stuff.

So I’m gonna jump so it is for me, there’s been telepathic, there’s been physical, there’s been physical changes in me, and there’s been

Doug Dvorak (36:20.961)
What were some of those physical changes? ‘Cause you shared with me y you experienced a ear probe and you had some weird stuff after the experience. W talk to us about, you know, the the the the touching or the testing or the probing that you experienced.

Amy Bond (36:23.823)
Mm-hmm.

Amy Bond (36:27.459)
Mm-hmm.

Amy Bond (36:38.039)
Okay. So this is gonna be hard for some people, but I’m I’m putting it all out there in case there’s somebody else that can benefit from this information. So I drew a picture of this. So having been a a practitioner for as long as I was, I do have a lot of dreams where there are frustration dreams sometimes where you think I’m behind schedule or whatever, and I I’ve had those dreams a lot. So in this particular

I know I I I acknowledge that I am a practitioner and I’m trying to get ready for patients and I’m already behind schedule. So there’s a gray right next to me and the gray is telling me I need to get into the dental chair.

I’m kind of summing this up a little bit. And I’m noticing that over here on the right, there’s a tray of instruments and there’s blood on the instruments. And I’m irritated. I’m like, I can’t see the next patient with bloody instruments. I need clean ones. And then I realized that, and I’m not even acknowledging that this is a gray next to me at the time. It’s like I know this person. And then I look down and towards my feet, there are two grays down at my feet.

And then there’s a third gray right over here next to this machine. And then I realized that I am not the protect practitioner. I’m the patient. And that’s probably my blood right here. This machine is held up to the side of my head, and these little pokey outy points, I only remember them being on the corners, but I I wonder if maybe there were more. I’m not sure. But one of them was put on the bridge of my nose and the other was put under my chin. And I just

I just succumb to it. I just accept it. Like, here we are again. Something’s going on. It’s put up to the right side of my head. And then something is put in my ear. And I just kind of okay. I was thinking they were putting me under this hip hypnosis kind of state to where I would be in a comfortable situation thinking I was in a dream. But I I kind of woke up in it and I was like, okay.

Amy Bond (38:48.023)
Something’s going on. So the next day I had soreness in this ear for two full weeks. There was just a little blood on my pillow, not much, kinda more gunky plasma or whatever. And for two years this ear was kinda gunky. I went to the doctor, he looked inside and he’s like, It just looks like you got kind of an owie in there. Did you poke yourself real hard, you know? I’m like, No. I didn’t tell him because what are you gonna

Doug Dvorak (39:14.518)
I was visited by

Amy Bond (39:14.587)
What are you gonna tell him? I I have an ear probe, right? So it so it was and and that one happened 72725. So that was just last summer. Okay. So I’m like, what’s the what’s the point of this ear probe? It healed over time. I wasn’t able to use my earbuds for those two weeks because it just hurt so hurt too much. And so

What do you can’t even tell my friends, right? I didn’t even tell my friends. I just wrote it down. Did a picture. So okay. So I I understood the the purpose of that probably partially in what is the date of this one? September sixteenth, twenty twenty-five. I’m I’m in a dream, and in my dream I am

Doug Dvorak (39:46.893)
So y go ahead.

Amy Bond (40:04.975)
working on what’s called psychokinesis. I’m trying to lift things with my mind. I’m in a I’m in a school and I’m in a school a lot in my dreaming. So I’m in a school, there’s a little gray next to me and I just kind of accept there’s a little gray next to me and I’m lifting things up with my mind and all of and I have this little vibration feeling over me that’s real gentle. And it feels good and I’m happy and I’m

I have a purpose, I’m working on something. And then this wave comes over me that’s a really intense vibration. Like it is so strong. It is so fast. I am paralyzed and I wake up. And in this ear I hear ding-al-ling-ling. I’m like, like a doorbell. Like we’re here. And I’m like, it’s them, they’re here.

Doug Dvorak (40:49.293)
He said like a doorbell.

Amy Bond (40:55.475)
And I think to myself, why do I always get so f freaked out about this? I know these guys by now. They’ve never hurt me. And I hear in my mind, do not be afraid. Just like that, I am not afraid. It all just goes out to me. And I go, I wanna see you.

I want to see your faces, but I can’t open my eyes. My room was filled with intense white light. Light that is so intense I could not open my eyes and I’m trying. And in my mind I hear, well, you can see us with your eyes closed. Okay, never thought of that. So I surrender to it.

I like that word. It is more of a surrender because there’s nothing you can do about this. And so I just surrender to it and I close my eyes and I said, Ple can you guys all get together in the front? I want to see all your faces. And I look and down in front of me I’ve got five little grays.

And and they’re kinda cute. They they’re all a little bit different, but not much. And when they talk, they all talk at once. So they have a collaborative mind where they’re they have a hive w what’s been described as a high hive mind. And they and then there’s this one guy that with the eyes, which he’s taller. well there’s a praying mantis here. He this

Doug Dvorak (42:04.407)
Hive hive kind of.

Doug Dvorak (42:14.317)
Looks like a praying mantis.

Doug Dvorak (42:18.68)
the the the other one with the regular eyes.

Amy Bond (42:20.735)
The other one with the regular eyes, and I have I’ve come to the conclusion that that might be this person. Might be that person who’s always kind of putting me under control, keeping me under control. And his g his look into me is very intense. It is bloom, it’s on me. And I th and I’m wondering, is this the one putting me into this vibrational state? This praying mantis had a very, very kind face.

And its skin was fuzzy and soft. And it had the joint here, the joint here, and then a finally a little hand here, little antenna. I have no recollection of there being anybody in any kind of insignia on their clothes. I don’t remember anybody wearing clothes. But yeah.

Doug Dvorak (43:05.805)
So you had five can you leave that up you had five of which had the black eyes and one with the right and then the other praying mantis, all at the the the foot of your bed. So my husband right next to me. Wow. Did he ever say anything that he heard or felt something weird or?

Amy Bond (43:20.003)
Yeah. With my husband right next to me, completely unaware.

Amy Bond (43:28.301)
Yeah, I asked him the next morning and I asked him this morning and he had no he had he had absolutely no idea this happened. So all these little guys all at once are saying the word ambassador. Ambassador.

But they say it in a little bit different tones, but they’re ambassador, brother, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They’re all saying it. And then I said, I’m are you saying I’m an ambassador? For you to us, kind of thing? And they said ambassador a second time. And it became clear to me that when it when I’m hearing words in full sentences and it’s a female voice, I think it’s the mantis. When I’m hearing words that are

Just words, maybe clue words. It’s these little guys, these little worker guys. And when I’m under their control with the vibration, it’s this guy. I think they all have different roles that they’re playing in this. So I said, Well, I’d I would like to be an ambassador. I was kind of thinking I already was, but I have some questions. And at that point, the little ones are coming around me and they’re lifting me up. I feel my body lift and

That dark, soft black wrapped around me. When I found myself back in my bed, I was still vibrating. I was still and it took about twenty minutes, I think, for me to be able to move under my own control again. And I got right up, check the time, 323 AM. I start to write down what happened as, you know, as much as I c as fast as I can remember. And

when my husband got up I asked him, but my goodness, that’s probably my favorite one because I got a word in edgewise for the first time I can remember. But I do believe that my subconscious mind and my conscious mind are working on working with them in different capacities. Like me dreaming that I’m working on li levitating things with my mind, that’s gotta be my subconscious mind working on something. But then me coming into my human body, like when I flowed back into my human body in this scenario.

Doug Dvorak (45:20.941)
Hm.

Amy Bond (45:33.403)
The more and more I came into my human body, the more I was already forgetting. I was already forgetting and I was like, I don’t wanna forget. And it it took an actual act of will to not forget. But I tell you, I was one hundred percent awake.

Doug Dvorak (45:47.981)
So let me ask you it go ahead, go ahead.

So prompts through several questions. first and foremost, two to three X increase year over year and this year more more sightings in Idaho than the last couple combined.

institutions, thought leaders, more credible individuals and institutions confirming this. are you and you’ve had, you know, the the the deepest, riches E. T. experiences in the last couple of years. Do you think that’s in preparation because the collective humanity’s ready? So so the answer is yes. And what message did they give you up? You s you

Amy Bond (46:28.365)
Yeah. Yes. Yes.

Amy Bond (46:40.463)
Mm-hmm.

Doug Dvorak (46:40.491)
did address it ambassador. Is that the overarching theme when you are doing these the fifteen percent that, you know, experience level one, two, three, four, or five that they’re getting some sort of message?

Amy Bond (46:55.297)
Yes. Well, I have to say there’ve been people with these experiences where they feel like where they feel like they’ve been given these tasks like help the earth and stop the wars kind of tasks. I have never heard those. Those have never come to me. When they have come to me, I’ve received messages of personal growth, things that I’ve needed at the time when I was going through really deep grief.

And I I’ve heard them messages say, You are, Amy, you are so loved. You are so loved. Or

Amy Bond (47:35.881)
Or maybe moments of clarity when I was in a really, really bad place. Because like I said, when my dad died, I was so angry and so full of grief that it took almost ten years for me to process it. I was so mad about it. And

So the messages in me personally have been that I have been being kind of groomed a little bit, kinda grown to hold this spot for other people so that I I think there’s a really good chance that open communication with this NHI with and so forth, it’s gonna be within the next year or two, where they’re actually physically with us.

And this is gonna be a really hard thing for some people to take and I’m gonna be the one that’s maybe in between as the mediator.

Doug Dvorak (48:25.121)
Yeah, not only hard for some people to take, but what about governments, religious religions, religious institutions? You know, they’re and I I’m whatever helps people, spirituality, religion, if they if if they are people of faith, I encourage that. Christians, Muslims, Jews, whatever, spirituality, but that’s gonna blow up

Amy Bond (48:34.585)
Sure.

Doug Dvorak (48:54.239)
A lot of controversy for institutions, mass panic. Well how are we gonna deal with this?

Amy Bond (49:01.039)
Well, I think there’s gonna be a really big spectrum because not everybody’s ready, but I think a lot of people are, but most people are kinda somewhere in the middle, right? So I think there’s gonna be some people that have such awe with it that they create a religion of it and start to worship it. Because we’ve seen that happen through history over and over and over. like, if if every if all the foundational religions were to get kinda real about

Doug Dvorak (49:16.341)
Mm.

Amy Bond (49:29.441)
what Christ was saying maybe before the Bible kinda got all put together in the year three hundred with Constantine and so forth going forward, or whatever, they were talk th there was talk about

Ancient aliens. There was talk about ancient connections that weren’t God, that were other people kind of maybe pretending to be God, or maybe just imparting just imparting new knowledge, but we were so had such reverence for them that we decided to make gods out of them. So there’s gonna be the folks that do that again. Then there’s gonna be the folks way over on the other end who are like, I do not accept this, I will not accept this, and their brain will literally block them from seeing it.

‘Cause our brains are more of a filter. And they all kind of find their people and they will separate. And then there’s gonna be everybody in the middle who are gonna ask, Well, what’s new? So what changes? I still gotta get up and go to work tomorrow. Is my job gonna change? Are they gonna replace fossil fuels because they know how to move their ships without I think all that’s gonna happen. It won’t happen fast because that would be catastrophic. Catastrophic. And so

probably well, our government is trying to put together and other governments a way for them to kinda integrate into us and we can start using these technologies and phase into each new part of our growth because

We’re ready for this change. We can’t be using these fossil fuels anymore. We have to change. I mean, we have to find other ways. How did they do it? How did they get here? And are they already here, but just in another dimension and we have to have be in a different frequency of vibrating? That’s why I think I that’s why I think I get that real strong vibration, is that they’re in a frequency, kind of like on a radio, they’re in a frequency that I don’t live in here on Earth. I have like a physical

Amy Bond (51:20.771)
kind of frequency that I live in here on Earth. But they live somewhere that maybe is is in a different frequency. And they have to dial down to where I am to kind of be able to communicate with me.

Doug Dvorak (51:31.032)
So several thought leaders, experts in in UFOs and UAPs think the increase in in experiences, sightings, visits, experiences is because of the state of our planet. Wars, you know, global warming, violent weather and that they’re gonna come and and the sightings have increased

because of all these problems with eight and a half billion people on the planet. So that’s really I find that interesting. I want to also explore, you know, if you are familiar with remote viewing, it’s a a a a not a traditional topic in in normal science or material science, but you know, remote viewers and there’s some very credible research out there that

an individual can have a a a a be given a number and when he’s give or she is given that number they can determine what the object is and it there’s some really cool research but they they they believe that those individu that we all have had or have the capability to to to to do something paranormal.

Amy Bond (52:43.449)
Yes.

Amy Bond (52:57.935)
Mm.

Doug Dvorak (52:58.005)
Not weird, but call it intuition, call it deja vu or remote viewing, but that the the people that have that skill have recognized it, honed it, and are ready. You had you had mentioned that you had seen in your experience that you could telekinesis. Have you been able to now that you’re aware of it, experienced in in one realm, are you able to to dial into more of these

Amy Bond (53:16.719)
Mm-hmm.

Doug Dvorak (53:26.989)
paranormal skills or phenomena beyond the ET experience? Has it heightened it, made you more aware?

Amy Bond (53:33.695)
Definitely more aware. I can’t move things with my mind yet. I I sure want to. I have done the thing where that other people do where they take the little piece of tin foil and they bend it and they put it on a needle like it’s balancing and I can use my hands and I can make it move just by not touching it, and that’s the farthest I can go with it. So but gosh, I would just love to have those skills. Man, wouldn’t that be great? That’d be fabulous. But as far as like intuitive hits and so forth, I

I have to say, yeah, something that I’ve always had is when someone is struggling and they want to talk to me, I have an emp an ability to empathize with them in a way that I can feel what they feel. And that’s been problematic, but I have learned how to manage it a little bit and help help give them good guidance, help give them good direction.

like I’m being spoken through by something that’s on a higher level and I’ve just really appreciated that.

Doug Dvorak (54:34.349)
Yeah. And you know, we’re we’re le living, working at a unnatural pace. It’s frenetic. it it’s too much. The mind’s like the mouth, it can only hold so much. And all these distractions, how many ever many hours we are on a screen, work and or relaxation or recreation, you know, north of ten hours a day for some and and and absent that but being open

to new ideas, be it the paranormal, be it be it individuals like yourself who are are open and forthright and and no hidden agenda. You’re not pitching books, you’re not pitching MUFON memberships at, you know, five hundred a year. This is and there’s risk there’s risk to that. But there’s also but but you you you agreed to be a a a

Amy Bond (55:23.8)
No.

There’s a fifty dollar one. Don’t need five hundred.

Doug Dvorak (55:33.919)
a guest and and and to share your experiences. and this has been incredible. I’ve got a couple of questions relative to if someone has an experience and they come to you

Amy Bond (55:41.411)
Yes.

Amy Bond (55:48.419)
Yes.

Doug Dvorak (56:18.549)
Amy, so if if someone has an experience, they come to you, what’s that first five, ten minutes look like? If they think they’re losing their mind or they they’re just fearful, w w what do you what do you do?

Amy Bond (56:38.403)
That’s happened quite often actually in the last month. what I did was I said, let’s not let’s not worry about doing the report. one person I met her in an open park.

Because she doesn’t know me from anybody. I don’t know her. And she was really afraid to even tell Mufon about it. And so she and I met in an open park with tons of people around, out around us, and I just I just sat across from her and for an hour and a half she just told me everything. Just told me everything. And I didn’t even try to explain it to her. All I did was just listen to her and by the time we were done, when she was done telling me the story, I said

Do you wanna meet other people that have had similar experiences? And she’s like, Yeah, but mine is so weird. And I’m like, Yeah, well there’s way weirder ones than yours. And so I just it’s community, it’s

You’re not you’re not weird in a group of weirdos, you know what I mean? Yeah y y if if you can if you can find your people and whatnot and they can just just help you just sort through it. The thing is it’s nothing about this is is gonna fit in normal human boxes. None of this fits in that. And we’re thinking in human terms for something that’s not human. We’re like, well

Our intentions are this, our purposes for the things we do are this. Well, that’s probably not their intentions, and they’re not all the same. I’m not gonna sit here and tell you the whole universe in all of its life is all benevolent. It’s absolutely can’t be true. But the ones that have interacted with me.

Amy Bond (58:22.445)
The grays, those little hybrid people, the mantises, and then I’ve seen some other ones I won’t even bring up because they’d I it it it’d be too hard to swallow. None of them have ever injured me. And they’ve always been loving to me. And after I have had time with them, I have felt overwhelmed with love and purpose for days and days and days and days. So what I have.

Doug Dvorak (58:44.031)
And you’ve grown because that experience has challenged how you look at the world, the the upbringing, religion, and and made you a a a better person. And i if I were to go back in the time machine to fourteen hundred and pull this device out and say, I can talk to anybody on the world in the world at any time. I am five minutes away from answering any question in the known universe that’s

on the web, very credible sources, and I can do FaceTime and we can talk to somebody in Saudi Arabia right now. They’d say you I they probably burn me at the stake. So, you know, as this is evolving and organizations, institutions, scientists are pushing the envelope, it it’s more credible and people are open. And I think the other thing that that is playing in the positive to the

the UFO, UAP, ET experience or community, while people, the general public will accept it more, is because at least in this country, we we have truth decay. AI, there’s so much fake. There’s agenda. Sell me something, this, that, the other. And and l loss of trust in in government, government institutions, and traditional nudes, you know, just the explosion of of

podcast on UFO UAP alone. People are more open to that and they’re looking for something larger than themselves, some to religion, some to spirituality, but some people are really, really open to that. And and I think it’s a a a an exciting time. So I wanna close with a a a question, a couple questions. Final thought. If a listener looks up at the sky and wonders

Amy Bond (01:00:31.311)
Exactly.

Doug Dvorak (01:00:40.181)
If they’re alone in the universe, what do you want them to feel or think about it?

Amy Bond (01:00:44.613)
gosh, I want them to know that they are not alone. And they’re not alone here either. There’s there’s people that’ll talk and love them. And my mission is to s to support the shift. So I want them to feel less alone because the connection is already there. It’s not something they have to go find or be worthy of. This is not a question of faith. This is not a question of belief. You don’t have to believe in this. This is either you know it.

Or you don’t know it, and it’s okay to not have all those answers yet. And in time, it’s gonna come. So you gotta be kind of get you kind of gotta get used to not having all those answers and just being kind of here to observe it. It’s pretty cool. I want them to feel curiosity instead of fear, and I want them to feel wonder instead of doubt, and that the universe is alive, it’s intelligent, it’s aware, and it’s way more than what we’ve been taught.

And there’s just a whole lot more to learn. Did you want to do rapid fire? Because they’re cool, these questions.

Doug Dvorak (01:01:45.375)
Excellent.

Doug Dvorak (01:01:50.882)
I don’t know where the hour went, Amy, but this has been fascinating and and the research up and until this that I’ve done has really opened my mind and I’m more open to to this area of of experiences. But my one of my favorite parts as we close out this episode of Mission Possible is rapid fire questions. I got eleven questions. I’m gonna give to you. Quick answers, first thing

Amy Bond (01:02:16.215)
Okay. Ready?

Doug Dvorak (01:02:20.705)
comes to mind. You ready? Roswell, cover up or overblown. Area fifty one, what’s really in there?

Amy Bond (01:02:21.901)
Yes.

Cover up.

Amy Bond (01:02:29.707)
crashed vehicles that are not from Earth and then our attempts to r reconstruct those and there’s a lot of different variances in us trying to figure it out.

Doug Dvorak (01:02:40.363)
The one UFO sighting in history you wish you could have witnessed yourself.

Amy Bond (01:02:45.347)
The Phoenix Lights.

Doug Dvorak (01:02:46.839)
Crop circles, E. T. communication or human art? Both. The most ac big difference. Big difference. Okay. The most accurate portrayal of extraterrestrials in a movie or T V show?

Amy Bond (01:02:49.315)
Both. And there’s a big difference. Big difference. Sorry.

Amy Bond (01:02:58.233)
Contact.

Doug Dvorak (01:03:00.203)
The most laughably wrong one.

Amy Bond (01:03:02.319)
Independence Day, but it was really fun.

Doug Dvorak (01:03:05.461)
If ET’s landed tomorrow and asked to speak to one human, who should it be?

Amy Bond (01:03:17.377)
I hope it’s not a government official or anybody important like that that has maybe some different intentions. It just needs to be the regular person because the change is gonna happen from the inside out, not the top down. Yes, they have. It did nobody any good.

Doug Dvorak (01:03:30.187)
Have ETs already been to the White House?

Star Trek or Star Wars, which is closer to the truth?

Amy Bond (01:03:37.879)
Star Trek is, but I’m a Star Wars fan. Wanna put that out there?

Doug Dvorak (01:03:42.113)
The one question you’d ask an ET if you could ask it anything.

Amy Bond (01:03:45.625)
How can I help this work?

Doug Dvorak (01:03:49.289)
Excellent. Something you believe that even most UFO investigators won’t say out loud.

Amy Bond (01:03:55.807)
that it’s it’s way bigger than you think and it’s about consciousness. It’s about our soul. It’s about our us connected to all of it. It’s such a big to concept. It’s it’s hard to talk about still, but it’s it’s there. It’s the thing.

Doug Dvorak (01:04:12.225)
Biggest misconception about you personally.

Amy Bond (01:04:15.181)
No, that I have all the answers to this ’cause I don’t. I’m learning as I go, and I’ve been really super fortunate to have the experiences that I’ve had because it’s helping other people. so yeah, I guess that’s it.

Doug Dvorak (01:04:27.787)
Excellent. Last question, one word that describes your life’s mission.

Amy Bond (01:04:31.277)
I’m an ambassador.

Doug Dvorak (01:04:33.013)
Excellent. Excellent. Thank you, Amy. Those responses were great to the rapid fire question. Our guest has been Amy Bond. She is state director of MUFON Idaho, the Mutual UFO network. Amy, if they want to.

get in touch with you or find out more about you MUFON Idaho, how can they do that?

Amy Bond (01:05:09.753)
People just email me directly. It’s Amy Moofon Idaho at gmail.com. That’s how most people have gotten a hold of me. Or on Facebook, we are Moofon Idaho and you can message me from there. Or if you have had an encounter, go to MUFON.com. It doesn’t cost you anything. You just say, just click.

Doug Dvorak (01:05:23.287)
Great.

Amy Bond (01:05:32.225)
An abduction or click I’ve seen something, blank and whatever, and then one of us will be connected with you within probably about two days.

Doug Dvorak (01:05:39.821)
Excellent. Amy Bond, State Director of MUFON, Idaho. Thank you. It’s been a high honor and privilege. Fascinating. Appreciate your time. Thank you very much.

Amy Bond (01:05:45.837)
Likewise. Thank you, Doug. Take care.